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Questions that a good encyclopedia article about quivers might answer:

  • How long have quivers been used? They were used in ancient Greece, right?
  • Has the quiver been invented independently by different people?
  • Have quivers been of any importance in the history of warfare (e.g., they might free up a warrior's hands)?
  • How about some images?
  • What are some salient considerations in the design of quivers? (size, rigidity, etc.)
  • Are they found in all societies that have used bows and arrows?
  • Of what materials are they typically made? What are some leading modern manufacturers?
  • What is the most expensive quiver ever sold (e.g., at an auction)?

Crossbow bolts aren't stored in quivers, they are kept in quarrels... sjc

Later: er, my mistake: a crossbow bolt is a quarrel. All references tidied. Mea culpa. sjc

Um, why is the boy scout material here? It's not relevant to the encyclopedia definition of a quiver and should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.0.70 (talk) 05:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


"Quivers have seen use in all cultures where bow and arrow have been used." I'm skeptical: evidence? --LMS

Well, you got me :-) Same as always, proving inclusive statements is hard, because i would have to list all cultures to do so. Feel free to change it when you come across one that have not invented containers for arrows for easy carrying. --Anders Törlind

Papuans don't use quivers. A Papuan archer holds his arrows in the same hand as the bow (i.e. usually left), even if he is also carrying pouches and bags for other stuff. This is probably influenced by the length of the arrows, which is often nearly as great as the (fairly short) bowman. See for example here and here. By the way, notice that in the second one, he also has some chainmail!! -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 00:13, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Location[edit]

IMO, more stress ought to be put on the fact that, unlike in fantasy, quivers were worn at the hip, rather than over the shoulder. If I had a source to cite, I would do so. :) RobertM525 09:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RobertM, I think occasionally there were exceptions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Manchuguard.jpg ~ "One of the Qianlong Emperor's Manchu bodyguards (1760) carrying his archery equipment". But, here are the belts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:19-v_2h_Vasnetsov.jpg & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IlkhanidHorseArcher.jpg & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:OttomanHorseArcher.jpg LamontCranston 04:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are there quivers that are attached to or part of bracers? I recall hearing about such a thing once, but I do not have anything verifiable on it. There is no mention of them in the article.

It's worth noting that, for all intents and purposes, an "arrow bag" with "straps" on it is a back quiver. Whether or not it was used in that capacity, it's the same thing. Furthermore, there's always this little gem: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/domesday/images/bayeux-060.jpg (that gent in the top left) Steamboat28 (talk) 10:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wording and Grammar[edit]

It can about hold maybe about 25 to 30 arrows or so depending on the size of the quvier. - Hmm, something is wrong with this sentence, but I can't quite put my finger on it. =D --Some Quiver Nut

Well, it's a tautology; obviously the number of arrows a quiver can hold, depends on its size! Having said that, I've never seen one that would hold 30 or even 25. Most modern quivers hold only 5 or 6 arrows. Mediaeval literature often refers to one dozen. You can squeeze in more but you risk damaging the fletching. The one illustrating our article has 12 visible, and maybe a couple more hidden behind the others, and it's really jam-packed. -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 00:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ethymology please[edit]

I read that this word is possibly of Hunnic origin from cucurun Hubschmid takes Middle Greek , Middle Latin cucarum, and Old English cocer, "quiver," to be a loanword from Hunnish. Edelward (talk) 17:32, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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